Last month, Nick Clegg and the government launched a draft bill outlining plans for a smaller, mostly elected House of Lords. While advocates say that it will make the Lords more accountable and representative, the plan’s detractors are concerned that it will remove the experience and expertise currently present in the current House of Lords. Looking at a recent survey of peers on the issue, Tim Bale argues that the proposed reforms are wholly unnecessary, and any reforms (if there are to be any) should be far more modest than those currently proposed.
The survey of peers’ attitudes to the reform of the House of Lords published by the Times last week suggests that, while those who sit on the red benches are happy to see some tinkering here or there, they draw the line at giving voters a say in who should join them in the Upper House.
This is a problem because the government’s White Paper proposes a chamber which, in its final form, would be at least 80 per cent elected – a process which the document suggested would be conducted under STV and could begin with a contest held on the same day as the next general election in 2015 (assuming, of course, that we really have entered the era of fixed term parliaments and that there won’t therefore be a dissolution before then).

Around eight out of ten current peers apparently object to the idea of a wholly or mainly elected second chamber – a body (as yet unnamed) that will, if things work out along the lines suggested by the White Paper, contain 300 members (around the same number, incidentally, that responded to the survey). Fortunately for Nick Clegg, whose baby this is, the survey suggested that, even if some high-profile Lib Dem Lords are sceptical, a majority – albeit a narrow one – of his current peers support wholesale change. However, 90 per cent of Tory peers were against it, as were 84 per cent of crossbenchers and 73 per cent of their Labour counterparts.
There are two ways to see these results. Advocates of reform will no doubt dismiss them as the special pleading of an unelected, privileged and endangered minority: turkeys, after all, rarely vote for Christmas and anyway it is ultimately for the Commons to decide, even if that means imposing its will on the Lords via the Parliament Act – something that may well have to happen if the legislation is to go through in time for 2015.
Opponents of reform, on the other hand, will read into the survey the considered opinions of a bunch of specialists who in the main do a good job and should therefore be listened to. Westminster – indeed, the British polity more generally – has always been, and always will be, a work-in-progress. Arguably it’s all the better for being so. Progress thus far has never come about by big-bang changes but by incremental accretion. The Lords is like it is for a reason. What exactly is it that it doesn’t do properly now? Which pieces of recent legislation would have been made better by being dealt with by a more democratic second chamber? What exactly is the problem for which Lords reform is the solution?
If David Cameron and Nick Clegg have got any sense – and I suspect that at least one of them has – they will take their Lordships’ opinions, and the small-c conservative critique embedded within it, very seriously indeed. That critique poses questions which haven’t yet been convincingly answered by those for whom reform is self-evident and for whom the Lords is an unsightly, irritating reminder that we live in an old (and sometimes infuriatingly deferential) country. It also chimes with the thinking of most Tory (and quite possibly most Labour) MPs and, according to ConservativeHome, with the views of the Tory grassroots too. Moreover, it has the weight of history behind it.
In the last fifty years there have been two serious attempts to reform the House of Lords: one beginning in the late sixties, the other in the late nineties. Both ended in farce and failure. Proponents of change could only agree on lowest common denominator solutions and couldn’t muster enough support to beat unholy alliances between those who wanted outright abolition, those who wanted no change whatsoever, and those who saw the whole thing as an irrelevant distraction which interested no-one outside the so-called chattering classes.
There is absolutely no reason to think that things will be any different this time. Where is the coalition of powerful interests that wants or needs this reform to take place? And how does the informed minority that does want it to take place counter the argument that it will end up taking valuable parliamentary time that would be much better spent on real issues that the majority of the country actually cares about? Sorting out the mess that this country’s long-term care system is so obviously in right now is just one priority that might be ever-so-slightly higher up the nation’s collective to-do list. Readers can no doubt think of others.
Not all the items on that list, of course, require legislation – it’s a truism that governments over-legislate and under-achieve – but most at least require the kind of investigation and debate that is also a key parliamentary function. In an era where the public feels increasingly disconnected from its representatives, do those representatives really want to be seen fussing over something that so few people care about? And do they want to be seen doing so in the light of the AV referendum and when it’s going to be just as easy as it was during that campaign for opponents to suggest the whole thing is going to end up costing us all more money?
No-one is saying that the Lords, any more than any other political institution, is perfect. But it ain’t broke either. Relatively modest reforms – the introduction of voluntary retirement, the non-replacement of hereditary peers who pass away, a small (but only a small) reduction in numbers, and possibly a more independent appointments process – might boost its efficiency and its legitimacy. But they would do so without damaging the place’s unique selling point, namely the wealth of experience and expertise its members bring to scrutinising the work of the Commons without ever getting above themselves and seriously challenging its supremacy.
The joint committee that will be established to consider and report back on the government’s proposals could usefully examine some of these less fundamental suggestions. At the moment, though, it looks as if its main task will be coming up with an option (or, if recent precedent is anything to go by, options) for the more radical shake-up that the Lib Dems still seem intent on trying to push through, come what may.
Cameron shouldn’t let Clegg continue on this fool’s errand – unless of course both of them are on the look-out for an issue which might, in time, prove to be just the sort thing that could be used as an excuse to bring an early end to the coalition. One can only hope that neither would be so cynical and that common sense will sooner or later prevail. Lords reform on the scale envisaged is not wanted. Nor is it needed – not now at least, and maybe even never.
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- Lords reform will strengthen Parliament as a whole: an MP’s call to the Commons– Laura Sandys
- Sortition won’t lie down: a blueprint for a truly representative House of Lords –Max Atkinson
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On Monday, 18 July, the Constitution Society, CentreForum and British Government @ LSE hosted the debate, The future of the House of Lords. The debate brought together MPs, peers and academics to discuss the proposals set out in the Draft Bill and the prospects for reform of the House.
The speakers were:
- Mark Harper MP, Minister for Political and Constitutional Reform, who was in favour of the proposed reforms;
- Professor Patrick Dunleavy, London School of Economics, who was also in favour, but urged the reforms to go further;
- Professor the Rt Revd Lord Harries, who was skeptical of the proposals and advocated a hybrid system;
- Professor Tim Bale, University of Sussex, who was against the proposals.
Click here for more details and to download “The End of the Peer Show?”
I support the main article where it it says
“What exactly is it that it (the HoC) doesn’t do properly now?”
and argues that reform should be related to improved preformance.
The debate would be strengthened if more was known about the impact of the HoL and its successes and failures.
Without this reform is likely to suffer the same fate as AV.
I agree with Tim.
The House of Lords is a thing of beauty, it has a very large membership made up of Ex-MPs, who I like to think of as constitutional experts and those who have learned the lessons of politics the hard way. It also has a wealth of expertise from all sectors, private and public and other outstanding members of the community. Very few of these people will wish to stand for election. The important work they do is not in the chamber but in the committees. These members do not have a mandate for ‘this or that’ and so turn out when they need to (when their area of expertise is needed) and they have the ability to vote how they think – rather than how the party thinks – without reprimand.
The proposals will allow for 20% appointed – so this is where the crossbenchers will come from. But what mandate will unelected members have when considered with the 80% elected? What if they decided a crucial vote? Nick Clegg says the Lords functions will remain very similar. So why reform it? It will end up full of politicians who are similar to MPs. And what about government? We all know that government departments often include Lords who have expertise in certain areas, this experience will be lost not just in legislating but in governing aswell.
We do not hear of the good work the House of Lords does, why does Nick Clegg not tell us about the positive amendments and suggestions the Chamber makes? It is not a Senate and when the elected disagree with the Lords, the elected invoke the Parliament Act.
What will happen when the elected Lords challenge the elected Members of Parliament? What happens if a charismatic leader of the Lords claims he or she has equal legitimacy to the Prime Minister?
Perhaps this is all hypothetical and like with the AV vote, Nick Clegg will find that conservatism is a little harder to beat than he thought.
James Butcher
President of the University of Sussex Conservative Society