Britons did not vote over what type of relationship or association the UK should have with the EU post-Brexit. The UK should hold a second referendum over the final deal of the negotiations with the EU. In this blog, Erik O. Eriksen (ARENA Centre for European Studies) draws on Norwegian experiences in arguing that there should be a second referendum on Brexit. After all, he argues, the UK is a parliamentary democracy and referenda are only advisory.
The main problem in the Brexit negotiations is that the EU does not accept the UK’s wish to stay in the single market without also accepting its rules and obligations. There should be no cherry-picking, it maintains. In the debate on forms of association with the EU, Michel Barnier, the European Union’s Brexit negotiator, recently stated that ‘the British have a choice. They could stay in the single market, like Norway, which is also not a member of the EU – but they would then have to take over all the associated rules and contributions to European solidarity. It is your choice’. In the UK, however, there is no agreement on what Brexit really means. Two pro-Brexit ministers have left the government and Prime Minister May only has a slight majority in Parliament. A debate on a second referendum has emerged. Many people disagree with the suggestion to hold a second referendum, arguing that it is only an attempt by sore losers to get a second chance. Apart from practical difficulties with arranging a referendum before the UK is set to leave the EU in March next year, there are no good reasons not to hold a new referendum. After all, the UK is a parliamentary democracy and referenda are only advisory.
The unknowns of Brexit – lessons from Norway
Britons did not vote over what type of relationship or association the UK should have with the EU post-Brexit. What exactly Brexit would entail was not debated and the alternatives were not clear. In contrast, Norway in 1994 voted over the final results of the negotiations with the EU. It was rejected by a slight majority. The Norwegian parliament then voted to join the already existing European Economic Area Agreement (EEA), which gave Norway access to the single market. Since then, the EEA has become a ‘blueprint’ for the EU’s relations with its neighbours; the ‘second-best’ model after full EU membership. Would this model meet the UK’s request of taking back control?
The EEA Agreement comes with its own court (the EFTA Court), and its own surveillance authority. The decision-making process under the EEA Agreement is characterised by a two-pillar structure. Since EEA member states have not transferred legislative competencies to the EEA institutions, they cannot accept direct decisions of the EU. The EEA Agreement, therefore, established the EEA EFTA bodies to match those of the EU. The joint EEA bodies bind the two pillars together. The EEA Committee transposes the relevant legal acts from EU to the EEA law. Decisions in the Committee are unanimous, and if agreement is not reached on the implementation of a legal act, the EEA countries can reserve themselves collectively against the inclusion of the act in the Agreement. However, this right is very difficult to apply in practice. If it were to be used, the entire EEA arrangement would come under threat. Such reservations would create an imbalance in the single market, which could lead to counter-reactions from the EU in the form of protective measures. The reservation right has therefore remained latent in the 24 years that the EEA Agreement has been in force, and it is doubtful whether any government would be willing to risk the uncertain consequences of using it. In reality, Norway is subjected to EU law like EU members. It must pay and obey but has no say! The Norwegian prime minister, Erna Solberg, warned the Brits before the referendum on EU membership: ‘don’t leave, you’ll hate it’.
The question is how close to this status the UK will come after Brexit, even if they succeed in putting up an EEA-like agreement of their own (or a Canada plus model, for that matter). The experiences with the EEA Agreement from Norway show that being outside the Union but inside the single market entails being subjected to EU-law like the EU members. Is this what the Brexiteers voted for? The UK should, therefore, hold a second referendum over the final deal of the negotiations with the EU.
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Violations of the spirit and the letter of the law
The Brexit campaign has been accused of breaking the electoral law by exceeding spending limits. Two people working on the ‘Vote Leave’- campaign have already been penalised for violating these rules. More than 50 members of the UK Parliament, including some Conservatives, have reported the Vote Leave campaign to the Metropolitan Police and the National Crime Agency asking them to investigate the campaign activities. Former Labour Cabinet Minister Ben Bradshaw, who did the reporting said that ‘there has been no bigger decision – beyond questions of war and peace – before the British people in the last half century’ and that the Vote Leave campaign violated both the spirit and the letter of the law. There was, after all, only a slight majority of votes cast for Brexit and, for example, many British people living abroad were not allowed to vote. Furthermore, there was a majority voting to remain in both Scotland and Northern Ireland. The electoral commission has already found that the Vote Leave campaign violated electoral law, and a group of British expats living in France, Italy and Spain has launched a legal challenge against the Brexit referendum, arguing that the vote was unconstitutional.
Have one’s cake and eat it
It has become clear that the conditions set by the UK in the negotiations cannot be accepted without undermining the EU. The UK negotiators would like to have their cake and eat it. They want access to the single market, but do not want the rules and regulations that it entails. They do not want to accept the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice or the four freedoms of the single market, especially not those pertaining to labour immigration. As, Michael Barnier, has stated: ‘the UK wants to take back sovereignty and control of its own laws, which we respect, but it cannot ask the EU to lose control of its borders and laws’. However, the issues relating to the UK’s commitments to Europe or to European integration were not a part of the debate before the Brexit referendum. Would the people have voted differently if they knew what the consequences were? The UK has played an important role in shaping the EU that we know today, and therefore has a responsibility for its future functioning. Do the British people want the EU to dissolve? Is this really in the UK’s best interest?
Only a new referendum can overrule an old one
Referenda are not well suited to handle complicated questions, and are often misused and exploited to serve other purposes. It were the concerns of the Conservative party that pushed former Prime Minister Cameron to hold the referendum on EU membership in the first place. Referenda are not good measures of the people’s will, but the only way to solve the conflicts that we see in the UK is by holding a new referendum. Only a new referendum can legitimately overrule an old one. It is far from certain that the result of a second referendum on the UK’s membership in the EU will be any different, but at least the citizens are in the position to make a more qualified choice.
This post represents the views of the authors and not those of the Brexit blog, nor the LSE.
Erik O Eriksen is the Director of ARENA and Professor of Political Science at the University of Oslo.
I expect after we leave the EU next year we can look forward to LSE carping on about another vote for the next thirty or so years. Time you got over it and got a life but I suppose your EU paymasters insist you cary one.
You seem to have a hard time accepting reasonable disagreement in democratic discourse. As to LSE being an EU paymaster promoting only one view on the issue: On this very same blog you find the article “The people’s vote is not the answer to the Brexit riddle” from September 18th. Time you got a life and stopped online-slandering people who are not of your opinion.
Jason
Take no notice.
I’m another who thinks LSE carp on incessantly in an attempt to undermine the referendum.
Which is why I comment on this blog, to balance the one sided view.
As for Albert’s view that the blog on 19th sept is concerned, The headline regarding not having a People’s vote was in reality intended to say that a people’s vote will not reverse Brexit.
There are. Other ways to reverse it
See the clip below from that blog.
perhaps many – within both main parties who would join with the smaller parties (and incidentally, with me) to argue that, as Brexit will have failed, we should revoke the Article 50 notification and remain within the EU.
Sorry Albert you are incorrect. LSE is an antidemocratic organisation who are intent on thwarting the people’s will by persuading the idiots who voted leave to change their minds.
I have no doubt that LSE will take this blog down as ( off subject ) but they do nothing about the personal abuse dished out by some remainers to those who show they are not sheep and can think for themselves.
Dennis, just like you I am not a sheep and can think for myself. Still, I think Brexit is wrong (which is different from saying that it is undemocratic or that the referendum decision should not be implemented, which I am not suggesting). LSE publishes different views on Brexit on a blog. That is an exercise of freedom of speech. It does not make it an antidemocratic organisation, quite the contrary.
Albert
Thank you and I also reiterate that I was not saying that you or any remainers are sheep.
Sadly though, there are those on this blog ( usually younger ) that turn to abuse when they loose the arguement, they don’t see that at that point they have lost.
I have found it exasperating that LSE academics especially the one linked to this blog are so fixated on unfounded assumptions ( we didn’t know what we were voting for ).
I and many knew exactly what we voted for I and many took the time out to research in depth the situation in 2016 and the prospects for 2019 and beyond.
I have never Asserted that there will be no pain. But I have asserted that a deal with Eu along with a deal world wide will be good, no not good, bloody fantastic for the U.K.
Mr Eriksen makes quite a lot of Vote Leave overspending , he may not be aware that The Electoral Commission gave the green light to it when asked.
It is time to let go of this useless idea that 2016 referendum cannot be over ruled. People are getting more facts now and more knowledge. 2 years passed and people does not yet understand what damaging effect will leaving EU and being on its own really means. I have felt the effect of leaving EU (which has not yet happened) already. Company I work has now made 300 people redundant, which has not happened for 50 years in this company. Me and my colleagues are now completely disillusioned by Brexit, but we wait till people will wake up and stop Brexit. I just hope it happens earlier rather than later, unit its too late…
“Britons did not vote over what type of relationship or association the UK should have with the EU post-Brexit”
How do you know?
Have you asked everyone who voted?
Have you asked regionally? Of coarse not it your opinion.
Guesswork!!!!!
“Referenda are advisory”
Does that mean a second referendum is also advisory??
If so by the logic it can also be ignored!
Logically two referendums is unfair especially if it ends one all, there must be an odd number then we can argue for less than a decade about it.
So let’s pick, 3,5,7,9 etc
Then we move on to the educating Yorkshire syndrome.
If you think the arguments before the referendum were intense, hold to your hat fella!!
The leave thickies (not) will need educating.
Wow that will tear the U.K. apart and some.
I can see Dominic sharpening his keyboard to support this complete nonsense and and another inflammatory blog intended to send subliminal messages to ensure we drones do as we are told!
Violating law?
What absolute nonsense.
Again you are guessing in what direction those who were ineligible to vote would do so.
That narrow majority crap has surfaced again and again. It matters not 50% +1.
This is Jeremy Corbyn accounting, he still thinks he win the last election!!!’
However by the logic of this article if he did win by a narrow margin, it can be ignored, we must go back and vote again because he lied in his campaign.
How can you say on the one hand
Referenda are not well suited to handle complicated questions,
But on the other hand we should have another referendum on a complicated question.
I’m not often rude ( except to Dominic ) but this article isn’t the slightest bit intelligent.
And before the remoaners start I don’t claim to be intelligent myself, but on this article I have a head start!
Good news for sensible people!!!
A second referendum will not and cannot anyway be done before 30th March 19
Yaaaeeee!
Bravo !
So in the referendum did you vote for the Chequers plan or a “hard” Brexit?
Whichever you thought you were voting for there is a real chance we will get the other – or some mish-mash yet to be dreamt up.
Only a 2nd referendum can sort this mess out.
There will be no second referendum. David Cameron said it. Theresa May said it multiple times. Why do you think you or anyone of the LSE dreamers can overturn the decision of he Prime Minister of Great Britain?
So you are happy with the Chequers plan and us becoming “rule takers” if that is the decision of our Prime Minister?
Or do you prefer the WTO rules?
You wouldn’t like a chance to make your exact wishes clear?
Bill
The chequers plan is only a plan,
How can we vote on a plan that may or may not be the final plan?
When will we have a final deal?
The final deal may not be settled until the end of the transition period.
Do we have another vote then?
In reality the remainers actually want the second vote to be a remain vote.
But if it’s close we can just ignore it anyway.
How long must this go on for?
How many votes must we have?
It’s not unlike the sturgeon effect, there is a underhand agenda to get independence.
And actually reverse the vote to leave.
We can also use our general election system to re enter the Eu if the majority wish to do so.
But only after the current instruction to leave has been carried out.
If the deal is a bad one we can and no doubt will blame government, but only when we know.
WTO rules are not so horrendous, not preferred but quite happy with them.
Exact wishes???
My goodness wouldn’t life be great if we could all have our exact wishes.
But that cannot happen because we are all different with different views.
We have tried and tested system.
We vote
Government act and carry out the wishes.
If they mess up
We sack them.
Hi Dennis
I can see the sense in what you say and the fatalist in me says that we should sit back and let our esteemed politicians do they’re job. If they mess it up well, 10 years on we’ve almost recovered from the last financial crisis so I guess we could tighten our belts for the next 10 or so. I know our public services have been pretty much cut to the bone and we’ve had to sell off all sorts of things but it might be a price worth paying in the long run. It might make us appreciate what we have lost and start rebuilding with the same sort of spirit we seem to have had in the 1940’s.
I cant help feeling that its a good time to move abroad. The fact that the ex-chairman of Vote Leave and Britain’s richest man (a keen Leave campaigner) have both emigrated is not a good sign.
To pick up some specific points, I appreciate that Chequers is only a plan (and its a shame that the leave campaigners didn’t come up with a better plan sooner – surely they had one ready) but its all we have. We had a referendum before when we had no plan at all. Surely voting when we do have a plan is a step forward?
Waiting for “the final deal” would just prolong the uncertainty and the mess we’re in. We might just as well say we’ll pick a date in x years time when we have had time to possibly create new deals (although with some of the options being considered we’ll still have to rely on EU deals) and vote on the situation then – and I don’t think anyone currently wants that. Perhaps we will by then. The next referendum might indeed be about voting to re-apply.
And yes, the option to remain should be an option. I reckon there should be three
1. complete departure
2. chequers (or whatever) deal
3. remain
If nothing else it will give people the chance to make clear exactly what they want now they are much more aware of the options and the consequences.. The fact that if this all goes badly there is a real chance that we will lose Scotland and maybe Northern Ireland probably hadn’t occurred to many. It certainly wasn’t on any red busses. The next general election is due in 2022. If Scotland have already voted to leave the UK and us leaving NI outside our border with the EU has empowered Sinn Fein, I’m not sure, even if the Liberals (the only current pro-remain party) did get in, if they did apply to re-join, and if the EU did agree to us joining (it took a while last time) that we’d be able to make everything ok again.
Bill
I’m worried that I may have to talk you in from the window ledge.
As I see matters there has been a vote to leave the EU. They vote was to leave.
Many say we cannot leave because the EU will not cooperate.
So we should stay!!!!
Let’s have another vote to see if we can reverse the first one now that we know the EU won’t cooperate.
You will have to forgive me but this does sounds very much like dictatorship from the EU.
It is the slow erosion of our democratic system.
It is not the domain of undemocratic dictators ( junker was nominated and elected in a secret ballot in 2014)
To tell us what we can do in the U.K.
Its much simpler that asking our lord and masters in Europe for permission to trade with the rest of the world.
Just ask them.
Do you want our money or not?
If not then we go elsewhere. There is a queue of people wanting it. Namely four continents.
The future is bright.
I cannot but ask the question.
Why is it that Blighty always plays with a straight bat?
We have undertaken not to start trade talks with other countries on the insistence from EU that if we do they will not negotiate at all?
What is that? other than bribery and holding a gun to our head.
Protectionism!
It appears that the EU are comfortable operating protectionism to preserve their club, but if plebs like us operate protectionism in business we are put out of business.
Good bye EU!!!
” The Vote Leave campaign violated both the spirit and the letter of the law.”
The Remain campaign broke the spirit but not the letter of the law, but they had the advantage that they (in the form of the Government) defined the law. So technically it was legal to spend £9.3 million on the distribution of a leaflet at taxpayers expense prior to the campaign. Technically, it was legal to commision a highly biased Treasury short term forecast on the effects of Brexit but to deny Leave the same facilities. Technically, it was legal to use the levers of Government to build up their case. Technically, it was legal to make no preparations whatsoever for a Leave vote.
Since the present Government were elected on a ‘Leave’ manifesto, are we to assume that for any second referendum, the pack will be stacked in favour of Leave just as it was stacked in favour of Remain for the first referendum?
I’m sure that many countries will be happy to negotiate a deal, but deals are exactly that. Each party tries to get the best it can from the other at minimum cost. At the moment we are part of a large and powerful trading group. Other countries work hard over years to meet the EU’s stringent trading standards. What have we seen from the US so far – they are happy to dump their chlorinated chicken on us. Or offer us trade in return for legal deals whereby they can sue our government is we don’t give them health service deals. These are the sort of deals you offer a weakened rival, which is exactly how they see us.
Not so much of a worry if we get the chequers idea through, we’ll get to keep all the existing deals – and be free to trade with everyone else though WTO terms but we’ll still be ruled from Brussels. Still, its not Brussels that sold off our public services, closed down our heavy industries and broke up our education system. That was us.
The EU aren’t holding any gun to our head and they are not dictating anything. We are member of something with rules – including rules for leaving that we drafted. They aren’t going to waive the rules just for us and why should they? Because they are desperate to import Mini’s? they are already made in Europe, Jaguars? Them too. Fords, have been for years. Vauxhall, they build them too. But Honda, Toyota & Nissan are going to suffer when we leave, us being an ideal base for accessing the EU was a primary consideration in moving hear. We’ll either have to make a concession to continue selling them in to the EU or they’ll join the other in setting up factories in Poland, Austria etc.
We are a good market to sell in to because we always run a trade deficit and we are happy with huge levels of personal and governmental debt. We always buy much more than we sell so of course countries will be keen to sell to us. I’ve not heard of anyone saying “at last, now we can buy all the things from you we always wanted to if only the EU hadn’t prevented us”.
As for protectionism, there is an element of it in everyone. Just look a our great white hope America and they’re recent spoutings demanding that Mexico etc shouldn’t sell them cars. Its how Japan built up their industries, India has been one of the hardest countries to sell manufactured goods to for decades – believe me, I used to try. Years ago we used to send gun-boats if our trading partners didn’t meet our demands. That’s no longer an option. The world has moved on, might is still right but we no longer have the might as an isolated country. But on global terms we still do as part of a larger bloc.
Its no good railing at how unfair the EU is being. Expecting them to roll over and give us parting gifts was as much of a fantasy as Boris’ Bus. Its just starting to dawn on people that our new position is the order of things isn’t as rosy as Gove etc. said it would be. No-one can afford to be kind to the diminished UK out of sentiment for days when they were part of our empire. Its going to be tough going.
Yes, being in the EU cost us money but it was worth it. We may never get a 2nd referendum, the 17m will get their way (or at least something vaguely like what they thought they were voting for), the rest will have to lump it and only time will tell whether we sink or swim. My advice is to follow Nigel Lawson, jump ship and watch from a safe distance. We’ll revisit this in five years time :¬)
I think American media is bad all I have to do is look at the UK to see the same problems exist across the pond.
In the US the globalist deep state trashes anything Trump does and in the UK the media, the govermment officials all try to convince the UK not to leave the EU in spite of 2 votes now that show the British people want brexit. I can’t believe that May has been tolerated this long. She was antibrexit and clearlly put in to a position of power to discourage the UK from leaving the EU. She has had multiple resignations from her own party. She clearly is not going to negotiate a favorable brexit for the UK and still she limps on in power. I wrote months ago to ditch May and put someone with good negotiating skills into her position while the UK had time to negotiate a reasonable deal and yet you persist on keeping May in power so that there will be a no Brexit deal so of course you would be better off staying in the EU. The question is why has she persisted so long and why hasn’t the UK done anything to save itself and I have to guess that the government, media, and whomever controls the UK is just going to leave the UK in the most rotten position with the largest fines in order to herd the masses into a no brexit position. The UK has no sovereignty at all since you can’t vote for a single EU official, you can’t say no to immigration all of which is to the UK detriment in a EU with corrupt government that is bound to fail. Why don’t you people revolt against that? We did it in America when we voted Trump into office. Our govt was destroying the United States on purpose. We have a patriot military and Trump trying to re-establish the American republic and throw out the european deep state globalists destroying america and working with the democratic party. The only time the democratic party wins is when they rig the elections or bring in foreigners to vote democratic. I see no one in the UK working together for Brexit which means you will end up with a no EU agreement and if you are stupid enough to accept a no Brexit deal then you deserve to go down in autonomy and sovereignty. I’d brexit and let the EU fail.Italy is going to default on whatever the EU pushes on them. Spain may go down as well. Deutschbank is failing. Merkel couldn’t retain her position and the only Rothchild puppet left is Macron who isn’t going to do a damned thing for the British people. Good luck with that.
“We have a patriot military and Trump trying to re-establish the American republic and throw out the european deep state globalists destroying america and working with the democratic party.”
The prime mortgage crisis in the US has caused financial pain to people all over the world. Forget all that America first s**t and recognise the damage you have done. People all over the world have saved for their retirement and now find that they are getting peanuts for interest and that their retirement plans are in ruins because of a capitalist crisis originating from your arrogant country.
Hello there,
I am a 33 years old men. I have been living in London for almost 10 years now. I hold a degree in education and a master in social work. And you know what I cook burgers in a hotel for living. I start as a KP in a restaurant for 3,50 pounds per hour been paid 7 hours shift and working 9. I have never ask for benefits or economic help in all my life. I just wondering wy this country doesn’t want me here. They said that pound will go up. That they will improve NHS with the money they will safe and that they will take control back. People believe that and vote. Now we now it was a lie. NHS is hurts, the pound is down. I remember 50 pounds were 32 euro now is 48.60. Your country and me in we are going to world trade where they will rip our pocket. And we are going to spend much more on services than before. They politics that say that leave before that the big problem happen. They lie and they and you got catch in that lie. It’s clear EU is not perfect as is not UK we both have problems but give up and get alone in a forest full of wolf is not the solution. People is seen that the deal is not good. Well if EU have good cards to win wy will give you a better one. Everyone talk about immigration but there are a lot of emigrants from uk in EU also. What about them? The beautiful think that makes me be here today is nor the economy it was have in the same flat Indian, Italian, Thai, Spanish, Portuguese, English… That is been cut to Indian and Thai now. Please think what you are doing, UK is not changing coz of EU is changing because the world is changing, you blame the wrong people for the rigth thing and the don’t have even voice. Please vote again knowing the true and if you want UK just for you I personally will accept it and leave. But UK is not only big building and great business is also elders, kids, kitchen, toilets… that you will have to take care plus food and medicines. Please don’t let people think for you. Think yourself for your good. I love your country I love you and I care of you don’t hurt yourself
An excellent comment from an ‘observer’ of our politics in the UK. That may not be the best word but the young gentleman knows what I mean, I’m sure. I voted to Remain and am very saddened that a majority voted to Leave, as we should be rejoicing in a cosmopolitan country and diversity. A very heartfelt take on the situation and I hope you, Aaron, will still feel welcome in our country.